People of a certain generation will know Diane Youdale, but under a different name. Every Saturday evening in the 1990s, families across the UK would sit down together to watch Gladiators, a high-octane gameshow that pitted contestants against the show’s powerful gladiators.
One of the best-known gladiators was the raven-haired Jet. Whilst gladiators like Wolf and Saracen focused on strength and power, Jet was far more athletic; balancing speed and agility with strength and endurance, able to do backflips with ease. This made her an intimidating opponent, who could quickly cross the arena and tackle the contestants.
Diane was born in the north east, a place known more for its industrial heritage than television, so we started the conversation about her inspirations and how a 16-year-old girl from Billingham became the face of Gladiators.
I remember careers advice in the north east typically being ‘Have you considered working for ICI?’ There was never any discussion about national television. So, what was the inspiration for the young Diane?
I was a gymnast from the age of seven. My dad would take me, from getting in from school, to South Tyneside Temple Park, where we had a centre of excellence built for gymnasts who were training. I was in the GB Squad as well, so I was training at a high level.
I wasn’t just going to gymnastics once a week at the Billingham Forum, which is where I started. A coach, Derek Lesbie, said to my dad ‘Your daughter really has quite a big ability, and she needs higher level coaching, and probably to come more than just once a week, because she could do really, really well.’
From the age of nine, I was commuting up to Whitburn and then to South Tyneside for training down at the other centres of excellence with the GB Squad every weekend. Then, at fourteen, I broke my left ankle quite badly.
I couldn’t keep still though, because I played the flute and the violin. I love music, and when I hear music, it’s like a synaesthesia. I see movement and can see dances. I’d fallen in love with the choreographer Christopher Bruce, who worked for ballet company Rambert at the time. There was a beautiful piece called Ghost Dancers and I just fell in love with this wonderful thing called contemporary dance. It is based on movement qualities from Martha Graham, but she modified dance movement to be very athletic and functional, but still poetic and beautiful.
I auditioned, at the age of 16, to train at the London Contemporary Dance school. So, I got on my little Blue Rapid bus down to down to Victoria, then got myself across to Euston with my suitcase to start training as a dancer. I never came back.
What was that like for the young Diane travelling hundreds of miles to London?
Do you know what? I’ve had friends of mine, who’ve got kids who are teenagers and older, and they say, “I’d never have let them go to London at sixteen”, but I was sixteen, going on sixty. I have a very old head, even as a youngster.
I was focused and in love with what I did. I’d been working with the lovely Trisha Ward and local youth theatre. I was in the National Youth Theatre because Trisha Ward’s work got taken on by the National Youth Theatre. We were down at the Shaw theatre in 1986. I’d got my place and mandatory grant – in the days when you got bleeding grants, weren’t we lucky? – and lived there for about four years as a student in London. It could have been Birmingham, it could have been Manchester, but it didn’t matter. I was loving what I did.
My family had always seen that I was focused and not just ambitious, but that I had the talent to withhold the ambition. There’s a disparity sometimes where some people can be ambitious, but do they have the skill set? With things like dance back then, you just didn’t have to be a really good clay for someone else’s choreography. You had to be a pioneer.
I already knew that I didn’t want to be a performer! I don’t know how I ended up as a Gladiator and being famous. I’d gone to London to train in dance and to be a choreographer, a person who sits off stage. I’m a creative person, not necessarily the front person. It wasn’t part of my plan.
And yet, you have a presence as Jet. How did Jet and Gladiators come about?
A picture of me was spotted in a magazine by the gorgeous Andy Norgate. Now, Andy is a big name in Gladiators; he’s the backbone of Gladiators, because he’s one of the few people who are involved with the new BBC Gladiators.
Andy knows how every bit of kit, every event, the logistics and rules for the show. He knows everything about what it takes to functionally bring a show like Gladiators alive. I leapt for joy when I went over to Glasgow at the end of last year to watch our new gladiators do their live events. Andy just stood there backstage, nodding, and I jumped for joy.
I got in one day from teaching. I’d just moved out of London and bought my first home, as prior to Gladiators, I’d done a bit of TV and film, which had afforded me some nice lump sums of money to put a deposit down and get my own home, which was wonderful.
This message said “Hi, it’s Andrew Norgate from LWT. We’ve seen a picture of you and we’d like to see you at Woolwich barracks for a try-out for this new show called Gladiators.” I’d seen the American show and that was amazing.
I didn’t think it was to be a gladiator, but a contender. It was another job. I was going to read throughs and castings for all sorts of things at the time, so I went for it. We did gym tests and assault courses. I was probably the fastest, because I was always quick, because I pulled my fitness up from gymnastics and dance.
Then, I got a phone call again from Andy saying, “We’d like you to be part of the show, and we’d like you to be a gladiator and we’re going to call you Jet!”
I’m not a body builder. Even our new guys look far more gladiatorial than I ever did, or could, They wanted women in this show to be more fitness athletes, rather than big body builder types, because we need them to get through the arena easily. Bodybuilders back then weren’t training for functional fitness, they were training muscle groups to look great in the mirror with low body fat. That’s what bodybuilding was about then, but it’s changed now.
I had no idea what it entailed, and I certainly didn’t sign up for the fact that it would become so popular. It has been by fluke, and would I do it again? Probably not. Fame becomes a double-edged sword.
I don’t mind teaching and being in front of a group of people, because my knowledge and my skill sets are quite high. I love teaching, and I love getting results, and I love seeing people have pleasure on their health and wellness journeys, and that’s where I’m really set. It’s also why I’m a counsellor and therapist. I love watching people go from a dark place to a shinier place and have a better life because of it.
I wanted to do my Master’s Degree and PhD on the external gloss of fame and how we are authentic inside. It’s still a piece I want to do, when I can get the time. That’s going to be my published piece of work. I’ve done my research. The thing is, when you get that amount of light, you’ll get people crawling around in the darkness who just want to pull you down.
I now just use social media to look at what my mates are doing. Unless it’s part of a contract, and usually to do with Gladiators, I don’t do anything, because I just don’t believe that interface of connectivity with people is real.
It’s almost like show business; projecting an image of yourself.
People project onto you a part of themselves. It’s a bit narcissistic. It’s about not seeing me for who I am. I’m feeling projected upon, because that’s part of them making up something about me, because they don’t know the whole of me.
When we can authentically pull up alongside someone and be alongside them, not possess them and control them and try and shape them and steer them this way and push them that way, is where really beautiful relationships can sit. Too few people don’t own their own shit.
Social media incentivises us to promote engaging content, when realistically there is all this stuff going on the background.
The stuff I’ve done wrong. I completely hold my hands up about. Unfortunately, sometimes the other side of the equation doesn’t. If you can hold yourself responsible, then you know that it’s good. It doesn’t mean that I’m impervious to life and I’m perfect in any way, because I’m far from that. I’m completely open on stuff that I’ve done wrong or that I’ve learned from.
Bullies and abusive people are out there and you learn in time to be better off on your own, which is in my case, I have learned and done that by choice.
Find a job you love and you never work a day in your life.
My father said something like that when I was little. Do what you enjoy, and it is easier said than done. If you genuinely love something, invest in it, and do it in the best version of yourself. It’s not impossible, just be good at what you do.
There is no point talking the talk and looking good, you’ve got to do the groundwork and research, get the knowledge. If that means years of study and getting the qualifications you absolutely must. But that investment in getting good, particularly in psychotherapy, is what you have to do.
I was going to do journalism, because I was asked to present during the Gladiator fame. I knew quite a few journalistic friends who had got into their roles because they were really good at talking and listening. I’ve always been interested in mental health and realised that journalism and psychotherapy are the same thing, just one’s very public and one is incredibly private. I chose the latter because I am interested in how the mind works as well and the history of what we know about contemporary mental health.
You went from training your body, and now you are about training the mind. The mind and the body are inherently linked.
That’s right, the body was trained more because I love music. I have synaesthesia when I hear music. I often can see choreography in my head of how people would move to it. I’m sure other choreographers and dancers out there do this similar thing, but I like to create. I’m still making up routines for my colleagues and myself from material that I keep fresh. It’s my favourite thing.
I’m writing a few courses at the moment because I can see where a lot of very good instructors could be even better if their knowledge level and delivery was that little bit more on point.
Looking back over your career, what would you do differently?
Not be so naive and trusting. I’ve been way too naive and way too trusting people. People assume because I’m a psychotherapist that I can figure people out, and I can now a little more because I’m more guarded. But people have wanted stuff from me, which is more about them. They’ve wanted stuff for themselves to be not with good intent, and I’ve never rocked that way.
It’s taken me 56 years to work out that. Unfortunately, some people are from a very different seed and because they know a famous person, they want to tear them apart to make them look good in front of their friends.
Diane Youdale; thank you very much.
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